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12 Responses to “[Ramadan] Why do shias include "Imam Ali’s(as)" name in the Adhan?”

1. Think Tanker Says:
   April 17th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

   shaism is primarily a religion based on innovation.
   References :

2. al Wala wal Bara Says:
   April 17th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

   ????????????????????????????????????

   (Imam Abu Zurah ar-Raze said): “If u will see someone who is disgrasing one from the companions of prophet (sallalahu alayhi wa salam), know that such person is heretic (zindeeq)! …”
   Source: “Al-Kifaya fi ?lm Ar-Rivaya”, p: 97
   References :

3. Irish Girl Says:
   April 17th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

   It’s only commonsense after how Hussein and his army murdered Ali and his people at karbala
   References :

4. ak ?????? ???? ?? ??? ??????? Says:
   April 17th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

   Ali (as) is friend of Allah swt

   Quran
   010.062
   YUSUFALI: Behold! verily on the friends of Allah there is no fear, nor shall they grieve;

   So tell me who is Hero of every single battle…..Who scared away 25,000 Kafirs at Khandaq by killing their leader….Who is Lion of Allah…..Who slept on Holy bed of Muhammad(saww) without any fear…..Who destroyed Jews of Khaibar….Who CRUSHED Sunnis Jews and quraish Pagans …..Who NEEEVVVEERRR Ran away from any Battle

   Only answer is

   ALI(AS)
   References :

5. Mi$$ President Says:
   April 17th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

   did the name of Ali(R.A) was included in adan during prophet Mohammad(P.B.U.H)

   No

   so a BIG no to include his name
   References :

6. Iranian Says:
   April 17th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

   Oh my God. You didn;t know this. Did you?

   In the original Adhan there is the word "Ali", but it’s only an adjective describing God meaning "superior God". It’s Sunnis who remove Ali from Adhan because they think it refers to Imam Ali!
   References :
   Iranian Shi’a Muslim

7. Rosy Pearl Says:
   April 17th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

   Salam Alaikum,

   It is very interesting how this is not ‘Fard’.
   So why ‘must’ people find a ‘way’ to seperate themselves and Distinguish themselves from other Muslims? (I’m directing this at those who do)

   If the Aqeedah = Not Fard.
   Therefore, it should not be done for the sake Islam, and not segregating.

   [ Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects) , you (O Muhammad ??? ???? ???? ????) have no concern in them in the least. Their affair is only with Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do. ] - QURAN 6:159

   ????? ????????? ????????? ????????? ????????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????? ? ???????? ?????????? ????? ??????? ????? ???????????? ????? ??????? ???????????

   Salam Alaikum

   EDIT: @ak (lion avatar)
   This reminds me of children playing "on who’s side you’re on".
   There are so many Muslim Heroes. Ali is included. So what?
   References :

8. lebanese Spirit Says:
   April 17th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

   Salam bro

   - i like to make it clear that i respect the fact that u are the First shiaa here who admit that its not part of the adhan…New shiaaa books are stating thats its a part of the adhan, ( plus the part of hay ‘aala khayr l amal, thats not a part of the adhan)

   - Ali(ra) + the other 3 first caliph are waliy llah.

   but i am still against adding it to the adhan… u made a du’aa against anyone who add so why shiaa add? its either u follow a rule or u dont? why u make for urself halal rules and then forbid them when u dont like it? why its always based on hawa/desires?

   - and how come u call it zikr since its not even praising to Allah.

   if i said ”muhammad is the prophet of Allah” ….did i just said zikr? Nope, same thing with
   ???? ?? ????" ??? ????

   the zikr is praising Allah.. sobhana llah, Allah akbar, etc………thats zikr. not what u are trying to explain. u are praising Ali(ra) not Allah when u say that.

   - if u are allowed to say it then why im not allowed to say ” Hassan is waliy llah” ??? see ? u are just opening a door for NEW ideas, which is not allowed.

   Ur du’aa is against u.

   honestly i dont see the ”zikr” excuse makes any sense bro.

   Salam
   References :

9. rubusmubu Says:
   April 17th, 2010 at 11:18 pm

   In The Name of Allah, Most Merciful and Compassionate

   The Call to Prayer (adhan) is not invalidated by a small amount of speech that interrupts its continuity. However speaking during the Call to Prayer for other than the interest of the call is offensive (makruh)[1], and it is sunna not to speak even for its interest[2]. All of the examples mentioned would appear to be considered a small amount of speech, so they should not invalidate the Call to Prayer. Then if these additions were considered to be in the interest of the Call it would still be sunna not to add them, otherwise it is offensive to add them.

   This whole affair is by transmission. Abdullah Ibn al-Mubarak (Allah have mercy on him) said: "Were it not for connected transmission (isnad), whoever wanted would say whatever they wanted." None of the scholars we have encountered in any of the lands in which we have studied have made any of the additions that were mentioned. In the light of this, we would humbly advise adherence to the Call as it has been narrated back to the Prophet (Allah bless and grant him peace) with out any additions. And Allah knows best and He alone gives success (tawfiq).

   [1] See: Ibn Hajar al-Haytami, Hawashi al-Sharwani Wa Ibn Qasim al-Abbadi ‘Ala Tuhfah al-Muhtaj Bisharh al-Minhaj (Beruit, Dar Ihya’ al-Turath al-’Arabi), 1:470.

   [2] See: Muhammad Ramli, Nihayah al-Muhtaj ila Sharh al-Minhaj (Beruit, Dar Ihya’ al-Turath al-’Arabi), 1:412.
   References :
   http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?CATE=91&HD=1&ID=11936

10. Fundamentalist Says:
    April 17th, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    ISLAMIC DEFINITION OF "ZIKR" = (Arabic: “reminding oneself,” or “mention”), ritual prayer or litany practiced by Muslim mystics (??f?s) for the purpose of glorifying God and achieving spiritual perfection. Based on the Qur??nic injunctions “Remind thyself [udhkur] of thy Lord when thou forgettest” (18:24) and “O ye who believe! Remember [udhkur?] All?h with much remembrance” (33:41), the dhikr is essentially a “remembering” of God by the frequent repetition of his names. Originally a simple recitation of the Qur??n and various religious writings among ascetics and mystics, the dhikr gradually became a formula (e.g., l? il?ha illa ?ll?h) [source brittanica dictionary]

    Please define HOW you came to the conclusion that mentioning ??? ?? ???? ??? ???
    is Zikr?

    How come more than 90% of muslim population do not recite YOUR version of Azaan?
    Is the Azaan at Ka’abah and Madinah LACKING those ‘words of Zikr’?

    you sure this is the stance you wanna take?

    @LEON: i am quoting the translation from Surah 10, verses: 59 - 64

    Say, "Have you seen what Allah has sent down to you of provision of which you have made [some] lawful and [some] unlawful?" Say, "Has Allah permitted you [to do so], or do you invent [something] about Allah ?"

    And what will be the supposition of those who invent falsehood about Allah on the Day of Resurrection? Indeed, Allah is full of bounty to the people, but most of them are not grateful."

    And, [O Muhammad], you are not [engaged] in any matter or recite any of the Qur’an and you [people] do not do any deed except that We are witness over you when you are involved in it. And not absent from your Lord is any [part] of an atom’s weight within the earth or within the heaven or [anything] smaller than that or greater but that it is in a clear register.

    Unquestionably, [for] the allies of Allah there will be no fear concerning them, nor will they grieve

    Those who believed and were fearing Allah

    For them are good tidings in the worldly life and in the Hereafter. No change is there in the words of Allah . That is what is the great attainment.

    ENLIGHTEN ME, ON HOW YOU CAME TO YOUR CONCLUSION REGARDING THE AYAH YOU QUOTED ‘not only out of context’ BUT ‘also with your own interpretation.’.
    References :
    Cool Fundamentalist.
    will edit if need be.

    hope you cover and refute these ‘would be allegations’ in the future.
    110 points regarding shias:
    http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?44063-A-Must-Read!-110-SHIA-POINTS

11. The White Horse Says:
    April 18th, 2010 at 12:04 am

    full lies from sons of mutah

    why the prophet PBUH did not make this Adhan?

    why Ali "r.a" him self did not make this Adhan?

    is not it funny ??

    what if sunnah said
    ???? ?? ??? ??? ????? ???? ??????
    what will be sons pf muath comment ??
    References :

12. MOMIN Says:
    April 18th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Brother you are not right.

    Quran 5:55] Your Valis are Allah, His Messenger, and the believers,- those who establish regular prayers and give Zakat during Raku.

    SHOW ME ANYBODY EXCEPT ALI (AS) WHO GAVE ZAKAT DURING RAKU.

    SO IT IS COMMAND FROM ALLAH.

    Plus on Day of Ghadeer Rasoolallah (saww) confirmed it.

    Quran 5:67] O Messenger! proclaim the (message) which hath been sent to thee from thy Lord. If thou didst not, thou wouldst not have fulfilled and proclaimed His mission. And Allah will defend thee from men (who mean mischief). For Allah guideth not those who reject Faith.

    The followers of "Muhammad and ali Muhammad" are quite certain that this verse descended about the wilayah (regency) of Ali on the day of Ghadir Khum, and the traditions in our records on the subject are numerous and consecutively transmitted through the Imams of the holy posterity of the Holy Prophet, whose reporting is enough for us, and should also be so for the Muslims, because they alone are the truthful (sadiqin) as per verse 119 of al Tawbah (refer to Hafiz Abu Nu-aym; Muwaffaq ibn Ahmad; and Ibn Hajar in his Sawa-iq al Muhriqah, chap. 11, p. 90).

    Ibn abi Hatim quotes Abu Sa-id Khudri and Antara; Ibn Marduwayh quotes Abdullah bin Masud and Abu Sa-id Khudri; Ibn Asakir quotes Abu Said Khudri; Abu Bakr Shirazi, Muhammad bin Talha Qarshi and Sayyid Ali al Hamdani quote Abdullah bin Abbas; Nizamuddin Nayshapuri quotes Abdullah bin Abbas, Abu Sa-id Khudri and Bara bin Azib, to say that this verse was revealed about the wilayah of Ali ibn abi Talib; and Sabbagh Maliki in Fusul al Muhimma; Badruddin Ayni in Umdatul Qari, Muhaddith Shirazi in Kitab al Arba-in; Shahabuddin Ahmad in Tawdih al Dala-il; and Mu-tamad Khan Badakhshani in Miftah al Nijat also confirm it.

    Hafiz Abu Bakr bin Marduwayh in Manaqib quotes Abdullah bin Masud that during the life time of the Holy Prophet they used to recite this verse with Inna Aliyyan Mawla al mu-minin (Ali is the master of the faithful).

    The shortest narration of the event of Ghadir is given below:

    While returning from his last hajj, in 10 Hijra, the Holy Prophet, alongwith the huge caravan of nearly one hundred thousand Muslims, made a halt at Ghadir Khum, a midway stop between Makka and Madina.

    He had received the following verse from Allah:

    O Our Messenger! Deliver what has been sent down unto you from your Lord; and if you do not, then you have not delivered His Message; and surely Allah will protect you from men."

    (MA-IDAH: 67)

    The Holy Prophet mounted a tall pulpit and delivered a long sermon, recounting his services towards the fulfilment of his mission as the messenger of Allah. He asked the audience whether he had conveyed to them the commands of Allah, enumerating them one after another.

    The huge gathering, in one voice, said "yes". "Do I wield authority over your souls more than you do?" He asked.

    "Certainly it is so, O Messenger of Allah" . They replied.

    Then he asked Ali to come up. He held him in both his hands, raised him high, so much that the whole assembly of men and women saw him clearly.

    He again addressed them:

    "O men and women! Allah is my Mawla (Lord-Master). I am the mawla of the faithfuls. I have a clear authority over their souls, And of whomsoever I am the mawla (this) Ali is his mawla. O Allah! Love him who loves Ali, hate him who hates Ali."

    At the end of this declaration the following verse was revealed:

    "This day I have perfected for you, your religion, and have completed my favour on you, and have chosen for you Islam, as religion."

    (MA-IDAH: 3)

    For those whose minds are clouded with the doubts created over the years by the enemies of the Holy Prophet and his holy Ahl ul Bayt, there are sufficient references in the books written by their own scholars whom they acclaim with one voice.

    Several eminent traditionists have clearly stated it to be genuine. Even Ibn Hajar has admitted it to be genuine where he has copied the tradition from Tabarani and others; in Sawa-iq, sec. 5, chap. 1. p. 25.

    Tabarani and others have recorded the following tradition as related by Zayd ibn Arqam and transmitted through sources unanimously acknowledged to be reliable. Zayd says that the Holy Prophet delivered a sermon at Ghadir Khum under a cloth spread as a canopy on two large trees. The Holy Prophet said:

    "O my people! I am going to be recalled shortly and I must comply. I shall be interrogated and you also shall be interrogated. What will you say then?" The entire audience answered: "We shall bear witness that you did convey to us the message of Allah, and tried your best to guide us on the right path and always gave us good counsel. May Allah bless you with a good reward." The Holy Prophet proceeded: "Why do you not bear witness that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is His slave and messenger, and that paradise is true, hell is true, death is true, resurrection after death is true, that the day of judgement will doubtlessly come and that Allah will raise to life the dead from their graves?" They said: "O Yes! We bear witness to all this." Then he said: "O Allah! You also may witness." Then he said: "O my people! Allah is my Mawla and I am mawla of the faithful and I have superior right on and control over their lives. And this Ali is the mawla of all those of whom I am mawla. O Allah! Love him who loves him and hate him who hates him." He further said: "O my people! I will precede you, you also shall arrive at the pool of Kawthar, the pool wider than the distance between Basrah and Sana, and there are on the pool as many goblets of silver as stars. When you shall reach me I shall interrogate you about your behaviour towards the two invaluable assets after my death. The major asset is the book of Allah, one end of which is in the hand of Allah, and the other end in your hands. Grasp it tightly and do not go astray and do not change or amend it. The other asset is my progeny, who are my Ahl al Bayt. Allah has informed me that the two will not part from each other before they reach me at the pool."

    First of all he announced that the time of his death was fast approaching. This was a warning to the people that the time had come for the completion of his divine message and ensuring the future spiritual welfare of his followers by appointing his successor. This important matter brooked no delay, lest his death might arrive before properly establishing his successor in office.

    As the appointment of his own brother (cousin) was very unpalatable for self-seekers, jealous and malicious persons, and the hypocrites, he thought it fit to appease their feelings and to calm their hearts by prefacing the declaration of appointment with "I shall be interrogated," so that they might know that the Holy Prophet was in command from Allah to make this declaration and would be interrogated about discharging this important duty and, that there was no alternative.

    Wahidi has stated in his book Asbab al Nuzul through reliable sources culminating with Abu Said al-Khudri that Chap. 5, Verse 67" O Messenger; do proclaim what has descended upon you from your Lord" descended at Ghadir Khum about Ali ibn Abu Talib.

    Daylami and others have recorded as related by Abu Said and as stated in Sawa-iq that the Holy Prophet said: "Call them to a halt. They will be interrogated about the superior authority and guardianship of Ali." And Wahidi says: "They will be interrogated about the superior authority and guardianship of Ali and the Ahl al Bayt."

    This sermon calls for special attention. A careful perusal of it will reveal the truth that belief in the superior authority and guardianship of Ali is one of the fundamental principles of faith and this is what the Shi-as believe. The Holy Prophet first asked the audience to bear witness that Allah is the only God, that Muhammad is His slave and messenger, that the day of judgement is bound to come and that Allah will raise to life the dead from their graves. And when they had promised to bear witness to all these things and expressed their belief therein, he asked them to believe "Ali to be wali, i.e. defender of the faith, supreme commander of the faithful and favourite of Allah," so that everybody might know that witnessing of belief in the wilayah of Ali was as important an article of faith as belief in the unity of Allah, the prophethood of Muhammad, the resurrection of the dead, and the day of judgement, and that he will be interrogated about it too. Anyone who follows the style of the sermon, the juxtaposition of sentences therein and the import of the words will reach the same unavoidable conclusion.

    Mawla means master; lord; guardian; one more deserving of superior authority.

    The words ana awla (I am superior) indicate that the word mawla means awla, i.e., superior. What the Holy Prophet meant by this sentence was, "Allah is superior in right and might to him and he is superior in right and might to the faithful and Ali is superior in right and might to all those to whom the Holy Prophet is superior."

    These are the words of Zayd ibn Arqam, who related the tradition. Tabarani, Ibn Jarir, Hakim and Tirmidhi all have recorded the tradition in identical words. Ibn Hajar has copied the tradition from Tabarani in his Sawa-iq, p. 25, and has stated that the tradition is accepted as genuine by all Muslims. Hakim has recorded in the chapter on the "Virtues of Ali" in Mustadrak (vol. 3, p. 109) this tradition as related by Zayd bin Arqam and transmitted through two different sources, and has stated that both the sources are reliable according to the standard set by Bukhari and Muslim. Hakim has recorded it also in the account of Zayd ibn Arqam in Mustadrak, vol. 3, p. 533,
    References :
    Nisa-i, Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Tirmidhi, Tibrani, Tabari, and Hakim have mentioned the following words also:

    "Man kuntu mawlahu fa Aliyyun mawlahu

    Allahumma wali man walahu wa adi man adahu "

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