British Shia hajj pilgrims speak of harrassment by Saudis
A British Muslim group has urged the government to put pressure on its Saudi allies to protect Shia pilgrims during the Hajj. The Islamic Human Rights Commission says those Muslims who do not follow the Saudi state’s version of Islam are often harrassed in Mecca. Roshan Muhammed Salih in London has more on this story.
By the way, thanks … By the way, thanks for telling the website!
“all things that may caused bad& can turn you into abnormal were not permissable! ”
Sorry, UniversalFortress! You only gave me your PURE opinion. Where is the proof according to Islam if drugs like cocain or heroin are prohibited or NOT.
Plz don’t use opinions as proof in Islam as u did according to your latest comment.
I see you saying … I see you saying that u answered my questions. Where did u answer this questoin?
Do you guys, Shias have sources other than Sahih Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidi, Nisa’i, etc ?
If u guys have, how many are they or just tell me the famous ones?
Man! Forget about the English or Arabic Version. But just let me know where Abu bakr, Omar, Uthman, Aisha and other Sahabah became APOSTATES according to Sahih Bukhari or Sahih Muslim!!!
just try to visit the most reliable true shia islam websites;
triple( w)(dot)al-islam(dot) org
-shittie encyclopedia
triple(w)(dot)answering(-)ansars(dot) org
i didn’t say you … i didn’t say you don’t like your scholars, or authors of your sahih books?!
did i say that?!
what i meant to say was ouviosly you don’t like the english versions of your sahih(truthful) hadith which was translated by your own trustworthy & reliable scholars& authors of your sahih books!
got it?
mucaad3: … drugs … mucaad3: … drugs which harm human brain like Cocain, Heroin, Meth, other most dangerous drugs in the world.
Are these grugs permissable in Islam YES or NO!
universalF: NO.
all things that may caused bad& can turn you into abnormal were not permissable!
Oh, by the way, u … Oh, by the way, u didn’t understand me. When i say “i don’t like English version” i’m talking the LANGUAGE not scholars or the authors of Sahih books.
Ok nevermind about the Language. Can u tell me the exact website that i can get the Hadiths that u r quoting.
Thanks,
I’m talking about drugs which harm human brain like Cocain, Heroin, Meth, other most dangerous drugs in the world.
Are these grugs permissable in Islam YES or NO!
If yes or no, plz what’s the PROOF?
Ok, no problem.There were Kufaar according to Shia’s perspective.
But how did they become apostates according to “OUR” authentic books?
Very, & very interesting to talk to you.
I aslo have question about “to your..”, do you guys (Shias) have another Sahih books? How many are they?
By the way, is Hashis/drugs permissable in Islam? If yes or no. Can u give me a PROOF? I asked u this question coz i wanna know how u gonna PROVE it to me.
mucaad3: …By the … mucaad3: …By the way when referring to Sahih Bukhar , Sahih Muslim, or any other reroures that relate to Islam,… i don’t prefere in English version whet it comes to Islamic way of learning.
universalF: i’m only using your authentic (sahih) truthful book of sources, which were translated by your knowledgeable sunni islamic scholars& authors.
By the way when referring to Sahih Bukhar , Sahih Muslim, or any other reroures that relate to Islam, try to MAKE THEM IN ARABIC WAY. Coz i don’t prefere in English version whet it comes to Islamic way of learning.
By the way, LET’S NOT USE OUR OPINIONS OR EMOTIONS coz they tend to be what’s called “Subjective argument”.
mucaad3,
i … mucaad3,
i already sent it to you as p.m.
“A Shi’ite View of the Companions ”
from the te encyclopedia
The topic in this article is how the Shia view the companions of the
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH&HF). In this part we shall look at Allah’s (SWT)
opinion, as stated in the Quran, with regards to the companions as well as
the Prophet’s (PBUH&HF) opinion through authentic Sunni traditions.
A British Muslim group has urged the government to put pressure on its Saudi allies to protect Shia pilgrims during the Hajj. The Islamic Human Rights Commission says those Muslims who do not follow the Saudi state’s version of Islam are often harrassed in Mecca. Roshan Muhammed Salih in London has more on this story.
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
By the way, thanks …
By the way, thanks for telling the website!
“all things that may caused bad& can turn you into abnormal were not permissable! ”
Sorry, UniversalFortress! You only gave me your PURE opinion. Where is the proof according to Islam if drugs like cocain or heroin are prohibited or NOT.
Plz don’t use opinions as proof in Islam as u did according to your latest comment.
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
I see you saying …
I see you saying that u answered my questions. Where did u answer this questoin?
Do you guys, Shias have sources other than Sahih Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidi, Nisa’i, etc ?
If u guys have, how many are they or just tell me the famous ones?
By the way, thanks for telling the website!
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
@UniversalFortress …
@UniversalFortress
Man! Forget about the English or Arabic Version. But just let me know where Abu bakr, Omar, Uthman, Aisha and other Sahabah became APOSTATES according to Sahih Bukhari or Sahih Muslim!!!
Note: We are still in the subject of “Sahabah”.
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
muncaad3,
just …
muncaad3,
just try to visit the most reliable true shia islam websites;
triple( w)(dot)al-islam(dot) org
-shittie encyclopedia
triple(w)(dot)answering(-)ansars(dot) org
for your informations.
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
i didn’t say you …
i didn’t say you don’t like your scholars, or authors of your sahih books?!
did i say that?!
what i meant to say was ouviosly you don’t like the english versions of your sahih(truthful) hadith which was translated by your own trustworthy & reliable scholars& authors of your sahih books!
got it?
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
muncaad3,
i tried …
muncaad3,
i tried many times to answer your questions here ,but i don’t know why it doesn’t appears …?!
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
mucaad3: … drugs …
mucaad3: … drugs which harm human brain like Cocain, Heroin, Meth, other most dangerous drugs in the world.
Are these grugs permissable in Islam YES or NO!
universalF: NO.
all things that may caused bad& can turn you into abnormal were not permissable!
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Oh, by the way, u …
Oh, by the way, u didn’t understand me. When i say “i don’t like English version” i’m talking the LANGUAGE not scholars or the authors of Sahih books.
Ok nevermind about the Language. Can u tell me the exact website that i can get the Hadiths that u r quoting.
Thanks,
I’m talking about drugs which harm human brain like Cocain, Heroin, Meth, other most dangerous drugs in the world.
Are these grugs permissable in Islam YES or NO!
If yes or no, plz what’s the PROOF?
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
@UniversalFortress …
@UniversalFortress
” they were! according to your most authentic ”
Ok, no problem.There were Kufaar according to Shia’s perspective.
But how did they become apostates according to “OUR” authentic books?
Very, & very interesting to talk to you.
I aslo have question about “to your..”, do you guys (Shias) have another Sahih books? How many are they?
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
muncaad3:i don’t …
muncaad3:i don’t like English version in Sahih Bukhar, Muslim, or other sources.
universalF: do you have any problem, or questions from the translations of your own knowledgeable sunni islamic scholars& authors. ?!
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
muncaad3: is Hashis …
muncaad3: is Hashis/drugs permissable in Islam?
universalF: kindly please…. be specific!
there are many kinds of drug(i.e. good& bad)!
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
muncaad: Are Abu …
muncaad: Are Abu bakr, Omar, Uthman, Abu Hureyrah, and Aisha apostates or KUFAAR??? YES or NO?
universalF: they were! according to your most authentic (sahih) truthful book of references!
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
By the way be …
By the way be respectful and try to answer my QUESTION form sentences, inshaAllah. I’ll do the same thing inshaAllah.
Let’s play and enjoy the game called “logic and reaon” through Islamic teachings.
Peace!
UniversalFortress
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
@UniversalFortress …
@UniversalFortress
Ok, it’s your turn;
Are Abu bakr, Omar, Uthman, Abu Hureyrah, and Aisha apostates or KUFAAR??? YES or NO?
“i’m only using your authentic (sahih) truthful book of sources, ”
But i like in ARABIC version. Don’t u understand Arabic?
I say that coz i don’t like English version in Sahih Bukhar, Muslim, or other sources.
Let’s finish this topic first, then we will be talking about “Ahlubeyt” next inshaAllah.
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
@UniversalFortress …
@UniversalFortress
By the way, is Hashis/drugs permissable in Islam? If yes or no. Can u give me a PROOF? I asked u this question coz i wanna know how u gonna PROVE it to me.
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
@UniversalFortress …
@UniversalFortress
Sahabah in the Qur’an YES OR NO??
The simple answer is NO. You can’t find the exact word in the Qur’an but INDIRECTLY.
The word “sahabah” is derivative of “suhbi” meaning; friend, or company.
Are we on same page on this, YES or NO?
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
mucaad3: …By the …
mucaad3: …By the way when referring to Sahih Bukhar , Sahih Muslim, or any other reroures that relate to Islam,… i don’t prefere in English version whet it comes to Islamic way of learning.
universalF: i’m only using your authentic (sahih) truthful book of sources, which were translated by your knowledgeable sunni islamic scholars& authors.
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
muncaa3,
no …
muncaa3,
no word ” sahabah” from the holy qur’an? YES, OR NO?
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
@UniversalFortress …
@UniversalFortress
Let’s use logic and reason through the pure Islamic teaching.
Also, try to answer exact questions that u were been asked and i will do the same thing InshaAllah.
Peace!
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
@UniversalFortress …
@UniversalFortress
By the way when referring to Sahih Bukhar , Sahih Muslim, or any other reroures that relate to Islam, try to MAKE THEM IN ARABIC WAY. Coz i don’t prefere in English version whet it comes to Islamic way of learning.
By the way, LET’S NOT USE OUR OPINIONS OR EMOTIONS coz they tend to be what’s called “Subjective argument”.
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
@UniversalFortress …
@UniversalFortress
I think that i gave you simple example in the Qur’an [[9:40]].
First, try to understand the word instead of gazing at “SAHABAH”.
SAHABAH = COMPANIONS
Are we on the same page about this EQUALITY solution? If yes or no plz respond!!
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Yeah, i’ve recieved …
Yeah, i’ve recieved your long article FROM PERSPECTIVE OF SHIAS.
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
mucaad3,
i …
mucaad3,
i already sent it to you as p.m.
“A Shi’ite View of the Companions ”
from the te encyclopedia
The topic in this article is how the Shia view the companions of the
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH&HF). In this part we shall look at Allah’s (SWT)
opinion, as stated in the Quran, with regards to the companions as well as
the Prophet’s (PBUH&HF) opinion through authentic Sunni traditions.
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
everybody were …
everybody were considered, or regarded them selves as
” companions” (Muhajirin & An-saar).?!
so we need study first your own authentic book of reference! to
determine who were the true “righteous companions”?!
September 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
mucaad3,
i …
mucaad3,
i didn’t find , or see the word “sahabah” from the holy qur’an, nor any authentic hadiths!