i left islam because …. (what do u think of my opinions?)?
1. the quran does not even describe how to pray. is allah forgetful or something? i thought he said the quran is complete?
2. nowhere id allah give justification to bukhari or muslim bin hajjaj to compile hdith. i think they wre invented simply to correct flaws in the quran
3. islam contradicts evolution which is a fact. humans didnt come from 1 human. created of clay
4 the quran (to me ) sounds like it was written by a human. the author seems way too mesmerized by nature to sound like a true deity
5. it doesnt make sense to me od wants me to pray in a language i do not speak. on top of that keep repeating allahu akbar. is god selfconscious or something to want me to keep repeaing hes great?
6 it does not make sense to me god wants to be worshipped and torures you for an eternity if you dont (without proof of his existence)
7 ive not seen anything positive come out of religion except fighting(u can guess im an atheist right?)
8 why does god need me to go to Mecca in order to forgive my sins? Hajj makes 0% sense, throwing stones at invisible devils and circling some desert cubical etc. kaba is cetainly not gods house in my opinion
9 all the different denoMinations in islam i.e. sunni, shia, quranists, sufi, salafi, ibadi, etc.
10 why did god send 3 books instead of protecting the very 1st one?
11 is there any proof theres only 1 god? why dismiss more gods ?
12 why does proclaiming a 7th century merchant is a messenger make me go to heaven? how does that make sense?
13 did you know the quran does not even tell women to specifically cover their hear since khimar means cover not headcover
14 we have to follow mohameds sunnah but mohamed marrying a child is not exactly a perfect example or habit to follow is it?
15 i went to the arab gulf and segregation of sexes only created homosexuality there. theres way more homosexuals there than in the west because of this
16 i am about 90% sure there is no afterlife - it doesnt make sense to me…. i mean am i going to do for an eternity?
17 all the scientific errors for example the quran says that the (quran 36;38) "sun runs to a resting place"
18 there are not any real prophecies in the quran. the best 1 i recall is romans winning a war in 3 years or something
19 all the contradictions for example; does god forgive worshipping other gods/shirk?
quran 4;48 never
quran 4;153 yes
20 i think religion is a big pile of BS and am 100% atheist
thats all i can think of so far. i left islam 10 months ago and am planning to start speaking against islam on youtube videos soon inshalah (sarcasm)
Oh, how sad!
I was an atheist, and I am just coming to Islam.
Atheism, is a dreary pointless existence. Too much time is spent hating religion, and not being a better person.
I lived that life, and it is meaningless and dark.
I hope you reconsider.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
No you left Islam because you’re a lousy troll who has no spiritual satisfaction!
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January 19th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
I hate to say this as I am not a Muslim but I think you got this off some website and are not really a former muslim. Thats just an opinion, I could be wrong of course.
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January 19th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
…oh my gosh…how will Islam survive without you? The religious, moral, spiritual foundation of Islam is about to be attacked by you on YouTube…Islam is so very scared of you.
Reality check time - you are mediocre human who nobody will even remember 50 years after your death. Even in your shallow existence how many lives are there that you can really claim to have influenced beside your immidiate family.
Islam has been going strong for over 1400 years - why dont you pick a battle that you have a chance of winning…
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January 19th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Good for you.
If you feel that homosexual r/ship is your priority, then Islam certainly is not for you.
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January 19th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
I don’t know if you’re really an ex-muslim or not, but I don’t have any proof to say you’re not so I’ll take your word for it. Although I do believe in God and am a Christian I would agree with much of what you have said. Not because of any hatred for Islam and not because my religion tells me Muhammed was a false prophet, but because a lot of what you said makes sense to anyone who uses common sense.
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January 19th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
just wanted to mark this for now so I can come back to it and answer it in full tomorrow… off to bed for now!
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January 19th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Congratulations
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Atheist
January 19th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
I thing you are not an ex-muslim and been hired to abuse Islam. tell whoever send you that islam is not a religion that will never bow down to the domenic plan of them.
people around the world are witnessing the reawakening of an old warrior (islam). you are bloody liar and pagan, becouse a true christian will not abuse islam.
January 19th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
I use to think that Atheists and Muslims love each other.
Am I missing something here?
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January 19th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Oh, how sad!
I was an atheist, and I am just coming to Islam.
Atheism, is a dreary pointless existence. Too much time is spent hating religion, and not being a better person.
I lived that life, and it is meaningless and dark.
I hope you reconsider.
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Former atheist.
January 19th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Your opinions are that of an Atheist,,,no surprise here.
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January 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
You make sense, religion and the belief in any kind of god, doesn’t.
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January 19th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
poor little spawn of satan
=]
I dont even believe you were muslim to begin with
the Qur’an may not say HOW to pray BUT it does tell you to follow the way of the prophet hence he will teach you how to pray
that is just an example of the ridiculous pathetic little excuses you have for opinions
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January 19th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
I think you should rephrase that to "As a result to losing the little intelect i had left, i left islam …"
And by the way.. i dont think anyone cares about you leaving islam. Its no ones loss but yours. How many times have you posted this pointless question?
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January 19th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
1. the quran does not even describe how to pray. is allah forgetful or something? i thought he said the quran is complete?
The Quran does describe how to pray, in the verse ‘obey Allah and OBEY HIS PROPHET’. To obey his prophet you must look at what he said, to see what he said you must go to the hadith, where you will find instructions on praying, fasting etc everything you need to do.
2. nowhere id allah give justification to bukhari or muslim bin hajjaj to compile hdith. i think they wre invented simply to correct flaws in the quran
The collections of hadith are saying of Muhammad(SAW), and Allah has said in the Quran that when Muhammad(SAW) is speaking, he is not speaking for himself, rather he is instructing what Allah commands. Therefore since the commands are coming from Allah, it cannot be wrong, or fixing any mistakes in the Quran which is also false, because its coming from a flawless being.
3. islam contradicts evolution which is a fact. humans didnt come from 1 human. created of clay
Evolution is only theory, its taught in western schools as fact, however it is flawed. Look at the works of harun yahya and he will explain tooth and nail how flawed the theory is, where he gathers all the scietific information to suppourt it.
4 the quran (to me ) sounds like it was written by a human. the author seems way too mesmerized by nature to sound like a true deity
Below in question 5 you say that you dont even speak the language. The quran was revealed in anceint arabic, it had such a profound impact on the speakers of the language that they thought it was magic. Theres incidents when the quran was being recited that even the most hardest disbelievers would prostrate along with the muslims, then deny it later on. A english translation of the quran is quite simply impossible, the language is too complex. Therefore, when reading an english translation of it, it dosen’t sound so divine, however the arabic version was strong enough to mesmorize the arabs and convert them to islam.
5. it doesnt make sense to me od wants me to pray in a language i do not speak. on top of that keep repeating allahu akbar. is god selfconscious or something to want me to keep repeaing hes great?
The arabic language is used due to its incredible presice nature, and its complexity which is able to describe many things where english or any other language fails. We proclaim over and over again that Allah is the greatest because this will remove any sense of pride we have in our hearts. This stops us from taking our selfs as Gods.
6 it does not make sense to me god wants to be worshipped and torures you for an eternity if you dont (without proof of his existence)
God wants good for you, and he created you in a way that good for you is in his worship. At the same time he is most just, therefore people who do wrong to others must be punished, hence he threatens them with the hell fire. There is evidence all everywhere that God exists, it is you that cannot proof that God does not exist.
7 ive not seen anything positive come out of religion except fighting(u can guess im an atheist right?)
Infact, if you look at war, most of the wars came from things to do with other than religon. World war 1 and 2 itself had nothing to do with religon, which massacard millions.
8 why does god need me to go to mecca in order to forgive my sins? hajj makes 0% sense, throwing stones at invisible devils and circling some desert cubical etc. kaba is cetainly not gods house in my opinion
God does not need you, he is self sufficient. If you go to the kaba and worship, it does not increase him, if you dont go to the kaba, it does not decrease him. It is you that needs him, and it is you that needs the kaba, because its the way you have been created. The kaba has been commanded by Allah to be treated holy, so we treat it holy. Your opinion on this matter does not count. Because on the day of ressurection, your opinion will not mean anything, rather it is Allah, master of the day of requital, that will be in control of everything, just as he is now.
9 all the different denominations in islam i.e. sunni, shia, quranists, sufi, salafi, ibadi, etc.
This was told to us by Muhammad(SAW). We will divide into 73 sects, but them come back together again. The followers of Islam are muslims, and muslims and none the less humans, humans are not perfect and we make errors. Therefore, you cannot expect a muslim to act like an angel, he will disobey, it is in his nature, because Allah did not create him perfect.
10 why did god send 3 books instead of protecting the very 1st one?
This is the sunnah of Allah, why he did so should not matter to us, what should matter is the we do not commit the same mistake as the people before us, so i guess it was there to give us knowledge and to teach us mistakes of those before us so we dont commit the same, Allah knows best.
11 is there any proof theres only 1 god? why dismiss more gods ?
When we look at the universe, we see a interwovern, intimate connection between created things, which could only be the work of one all powerful entity. eg the wind blows and the leaves move directly in proportion to the wind, there is no chaos. If there were two Gods, each god would be responsible for its creation, and being a god must have complete control over that creations faith. So if one god created a rock and one god created gravity, if i threw a rock in the air and one god wanted to make it stay up, but the god of gravity wanted it to fall, then theres a contradiction. One god must give way, but that would mean he is not a god, because a god must have free will. This world exist in complete harmony with other creations, that means theres only one God behind this.
12 why does proclaiming a 7th century merchant is a messenger make me go to heaven? how does that make sense?
He was a guide for us, Allah chose him to reveal to, therefore we must follow what he says. You sat 7th century merchant, implying that he was of low knowledge, but he was the most knowledgable of all of us, and the best of characters, as told to us by Allah.
13 did you know the quran does not even tell women to specifically cover their hear since khimar means cover not headcover
We understand the Quran according to how the sahaba understood the Quran, and they understood it as covering as we see the women being covered today, therefore the way they are covering is correct.
14 we have to follow mohameds sunnah but mohamed marrying a child is not exactly a perfect example or habit to follow is it?
Muhammad(SAW) lived at a period 1400 years ago, if you go back 1400 years, girls would get married at this time, so it was nothing bizzare or stange, it was the way things were back then. Infact, his guidance to marrying women is perfect, since he commands that women are not married againts their will, but we see it happening in other traditions, therefore i am happy to follow his ways.
15 i went to the arab gulf and segregation of sexes only created homosexuality there. theres way more homosexuals there than in the west because of this
Once again, people make errors. If your going to abandon religon because you see people making errors and mistakes and not behaving perfectly like gods who dont even make a single mistake, then thats not a wise decision.
16 i am about 90% sure there is no afterlife - it doesnt make sense to me…. i mean am i going to do for an eternity?
An afterlife makes sense because people need to be rewarded or punished for their deeds in this world. It does not make sense that a person can cause such suffering to others and not be punished for it, and it does not make sense that anyone should do good and not be rewarded for their efforsts. Hence we either get rewarded or punished in the hereafter.
17 all the scientific errors for example the quran says that the (quran 36;38) "sun runs to a resting place"
That verse is referring to a righteous king who was looking at the sun in the heat of the desert, when the sun sets in the dessert it sets in a muddle pond like appearence due to the heat. When you read a verse of the Quran, you have to go to the tasfir to see what it is actually talking about.
18 there are not any real prophecies in the quran. the best 1 i recall is romans winning a war in 3 years or something
19 all the contradictions for example; does god forgive worshipping other gods/shirk?
quran 4;48 never
quran 4;153 yes
Well you have pulled out one word out of an entire context, you must take the whole context and read the tasfir for it, i.e what it is talking about, its your misunderstand here.
There are many in the sunnah, for example if you look at the prophecies for the end times, there are many which are becoming true.
20 i think religion is a big pile of BS and am 100% atheist
To you be your religon and to me be mine.
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January 19th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Very well . Did you try to look for real answers to all what you wrote ? Or you just decided what you think is right and there is nothing can answer it . Sometimes if people are stubborn and self opinionated that will blind them from agreeing with any other view but theirs only . I don’t care if you believe or not , I don’t know you , but I hope you care about yourself because you’ll pay a high price if you rejected Allha’s message despite his warnings .
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January 19th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Whatever makes you happy, like Nike says - Just do it!
By the way I wonder why Ghost thinks that the Atheists and Agnostics will support the Muslims when they know that the Muslims will behead them at the very first opportunity they get when Islam Dominates the Land, like they’ll do with the gays, lesbians, transvestites, idolaters [which includes Christians who wear a cross or those that have one in their church] and pretty much everyone else other than the Muslims? [Taken from another Answer which I copied and saved. Credit goes to the original Answerer]
I don’t see any chance any of us supporting the Muslims and I see all of us wanting to fight against their ever achieving their Goal.
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January 19th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
OK.
Bangalore
chop chop..beheaded
punishment is close
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December 11th, 2010 at 5:59 am
hi… I am a muslim belonging to a trible area of pakistan. certainly you have decribed how hate this vary religion, i am in your faver that there are things which are unseen by islamic teachings or ignored . there are numerous contradiction in Hadeeth and Quraan (i read by my self),there are thing that are unethical to humanity, but the thing is we must bring the change. we have to face the music , we have to think how to bring all the humans on a single platform of humanity. And surly Humanity does not teach us to Hurt someones feelings and emotions. you must not speek against Islam but to convance the people showing them the right way of humanity. thanx to all for reading