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		<title>By: ??m??</title>
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		<dc:creator>??m??</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 03:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know what are you referring to here is your answer:
Her Marriage with the prophet was a Wahy (Divine Revelation). She, herself relates from the Prophet. &#34;He said, 'I saw you in dreams three times. The angel brought you to me and you were clad in white silk. He (the angel) said that it was your consort and he (angel) showed me by opening your face. You are just like that...&#34; Sahih Muslim, Vol.2, p. 285.

Islam has no problem with early marriage, in general it
is left to the parents to decide if their children should marry or not
with her or his consent. But if they are married at young age the
marriage should be consummated AFTER the age of puberty and
AFTER the girl reaches her Menses. This is because the Prophet
Muhammed(pbuh) consummated his marriage after Aisha(r.a)
reached PUBERTY. Islam does not support Pedophilia or child
molestation under any circumstances. This is because the Quran
associates marriage to physical &#38; mental maturity and Adulthood.
I will give two Quran verses to prove this:

 Quran 4:6
Make trial of orphans until they REACH the age of marriage; if
then you find SOUND judgment in them, release their property to
them; but consume it not wastefully, nor in haste against their
growing up. If the guardian is well off, Let him claim no
remuneration, but if he is poor, let him have for himself what is
just and reasonable. When ye release their property to them, take
witnesses in their presence: But all sufficient is God in taking
account.

 Quran 4:21
..and how could ye take it when ye have gone in unto each other,
and they have Taken from you a solemn covenant
Both of these Verses together indicate that marriage is a
COVENANT! (agreement) between men and women at the age of
maturity and where they can make good judgments. Therefore they
have to be developed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;tnhz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know what are you referring to here is your answer:<br />
Her Marriage with the prophet was a Wahy (Divine Revelation). She, herself relates from the Prophet. &quot;He said, &#8216;I saw you in dreams three times. The angel brought you to me and you were clad in white silk. He (the angel) said that it was your consort and he (angel) showed me by opening your face. You are just like that&#8230;&quot; Sahih Muslim, Vol.2, p. 285.</p>
<p>Islam has no problem with early marriage, in general it<br />
is left to the parents to decide if their children should marry or not<br />
with her or his consent. But if they are married at young age the<br />
marriage should be consummated AFTER the age of puberty and<br />
AFTER the girl reaches her Menses. This is because the Prophet<br />
Muhammed(pbuh) consummated his marriage after Aisha(r.a)<br />
reached PUBERTY. Islam does not support Pedophilia or child<br />
molestation under any circumstances. This is because the Quran<br />
associates marriage to physical &amp; mental maturity and Adulthood.<br />
I will give two Quran verses to prove this:</p>
<p> Quran 4:6<br />
Make trial of orphans until they REACH the age of marriage; if<br />
then you find SOUND judgment in them, release their property to<br />
them; but consume it not wastefully, nor in haste against their<br />
growing up. If the guardian is well off, Let him claim no<br />
remuneration, but if he is poor, let him have for himself what is<br />
just and reasonable. When ye release their property to them, take<br />
witnesses in their presence: But all sufficient is God in taking<br />
account.</p>
<p> Quran 4:21<br />
..and how could ye take it when ye have gone in unto each other,<br />
and they have Taken from you a solemn covenant<br />
Both of these Verses together indicate that marriage is a<br />
COVENANT! (agreement) between men and women at the age of<br />
maturity and where they can make good judgments. Therefore they<br />
have to be developed.<br /><b>References : </b><br />tnhz</p>
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		<title>By: Shadow.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadow.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 03:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In islam it is halal as mohammad did it and allowed other muslim men to sleep with prepubescent girls.

Mature men are allowed to marry prepubescent girls.

The Quran in Sura 65:1, 4 says:

65:1 O Prophet, when you (and the believers) divorce women, divorce them for their prescribed waiting-period and count the waiting-period accurately . . . 4 And if you are in doubt about those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, (you should know that) their waiting period is three months, and the same applies to those who have not menstruated as yet. As for pregnant women, their period ends when they have delivered their burden.

Most of the muslims out here have claimed that Aisha (the 6 year old) was mature when mohammad &#34;married&#34; her. 

Now we’ll look at the evidence and see that Aisha was prepubescent when Muhammad had sex with her.

The hadith state that Aisha was taken to Muhammad’s house, as his bride, when she was 9 and she took her dolls with her as play toys.

'A'isha reported that Allah's Apostle married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house AS A BRIDE WHEN SHE WAS NINE, AND HER DOLLS WERE WITH HER; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)

'A'isha reported that she used to PLAY WITH DOLLS in the presence of Allah's Messenger and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah's Messenger whereas Allah's Messenger sent them to her. (Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5981)

When the Apostle of Allah arrived after the expedition to Tabuk or Khaybar (the narrator is doubtful), the draught raised an end of a curtain which was hung in front of her store-room, revealing some dolls which belonged to her.

He asked: What is this? She replied: My dolls. Among them he saw a horse with wings made of rags, and asked: What is this I see among them? She replied: A horse. He asked: What is this that it has on it? She replied: Two wings. He asked: A horse with two wings? She replied: Have you not heard that Solomon had horses with wings? She said: Thereupon the Apostle of Allah laughed so heartily that I could see his molar teeth. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 41, Number 4914)

A Muslim scholar says that it is okay for Aisha (and other children) to play with dolls because they are not considered adults:

Al-Khattaabee said: From this Hadeeth it is understood that playing with dolls (al-banaat) is not like the amusement from other images (suwar) concerning which the threat (wa'eed) of punishment is mentioned. The only reason why permission in this was given to 'Aa'isha (may Allah be pleased with her) is because SHE HAD NOT, AT THAT TIME, REACHED THE AGE OF PUBERTY. (Source? http://www.muslimconverts.com/e-books/im… )

Their answers prove that they themselves are ashmaed of what mohammad did, hence they are trying to find various excuses to shelter the pedophile.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In islam it is halal as mohammad did it and allowed other muslim men to sleep with prepubescent girls.</p>
<p>Mature men are allowed to marry prepubescent girls.</p>
<p>The Quran in Sura 65:1, 4 says:</p>
<p>65:1 O Prophet, when you (and the believers) divorce women, divorce them for their prescribed waiting-period and count the waiting-period accurately . . . 4 And if you are in doubt about those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, (you should know that) their waiting period is three months, and the same applies to those who have not menstruated as yet. As for pregnant women, their period ends when they have delivered their burden.</p>
<p>Most of the muslims out here have claimed that Aisha (the 6 year old) was mature when mohammad &quot;married&quot; her. </p>
<p>Now we’ll look at the evidence and see that Aisha was prepubescent when Muhammad had sex with her.</p>
<p>The hadith state that Aisha was taken to Muhammad’s house, as his bride, when she was 9 and she took her dolls with her as play toys.</p>
<p>&#8216;A&#8217;isha reported that Allah&#8217;s Apostle married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house AS A BRIDE WHEN SHE WAS NINE, AND HER DOLLS WERE WITH HER; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)</p>
<p>&#8216;A&#8217;isha reported that she used to PLAY WITH DOLLS in the presence of Allah&#8217;s Messenger and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah&#8217;s Messenger whereas Allah&#8217;s Messenger sent them to her. (Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5981)</p>
<p>When the Apostle of Allah arrived after the expedition to Tabuk or Khaybar (the narrator is doubtful), the draught raised an end of a curtain which was hung in front of her store-room, revealing some dolls which belonged to her.</p>
<p>He asked: What is this? She replied: My dolls. Among them he saw a horse with wings made of rags, and asked: What is this I see among them? She replied: A horse. He asked: What is this that it has on it? She replied: Two wings. He asked: A horse with two wings? She replied: Have you not heard that Solomon had horses with wings? She said: Thereupon the Apostle of Allah laughed so heartily that I could see his molar teeth. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 41, Number 4914)</p>
<p>A Muslim scholar says that it is okay for Aisha (and other children) to play with dolls because they are not considered adults:</p>
<p>Al-Khattaabee said: From this Hadeeth it is understood that playing with dolls (al-banaat) is not like the amusement from other images (suwar) concerning which the threat (wa&#8217;eed) of punishment is mentioned. The only reason why permission in this was given to &#8216;Aa&#8217;isha (may Allah be pleased with her) is because SHE HAD NOT, AT THAT TIME, REACHED THE AGE OF PUBERTY. (Source? <a href="http://www.muslimconverts.com/e-books/im…" rel="nofollow">http://www.muslimconverts.com/e-books/im…</a> )</p>
<p>Their answers prove that they themselves are ashmaed of what mohammad did, hence they are trying to find various excuses to shelter the pedophile.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Butterfly 2nd account.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Butterfly 2nd account.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 03:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it is wrong.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is wrong.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Quran Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quran Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 02:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not at all&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not at all<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: ahmad yazid</title>
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		<dc:creator>ahmad yazid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 02:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About Aishah (who married by the prophet at 9) its not rape thats going on. In Arab (in the time of Jahilliyah and chaos between Moslem and Qurays) chaos is the main problem there. Muhammad SAW marry Aisha not because He really wants it. its just because Aishah (such young age) need a Legal guardian. thats why the prophet marry her, to be her legal guardian.
even Muhammad SAW when his father died. and when his Grandpa Died, he also need a legal Guardian, and it comes to his uncle&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About Aishah (who married by the prophet at 9) its not rape thats going on. In Arab (in the time of Jahilliyah and chaos between Moslem and Qurays) chaos is the main problem there. Muhammad SAW marry Aisha not because He really wants it. its just because Aishah (such young age) need a Legal guardian. thats why the prophet marry her, to be her legal guardian.<br />
even Muhammad SAW when his father died. and when his Grandpa Died, he also need a legal Guardian, and it comes to his uncle<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Sarah P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 02:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you a muslim? 
Stop asking stupid questions.
In Prophet Muhamads time (may peace be upon him) she wasn't a young girl. Back in those times you were considered grown at the age of 6-9 she wasnt a little immature baby. She was a grown woman. He was a grown man. 
Stop contridicting islam.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a muslim?<br />
Stop asking stupid questions.<br />
In Prophet Muhamads time (may peace be upon him) she wasn&#8217;t a young girl. Back in those times you were considered grown at the age of 6-9 she wasnt a little immature baby. She was a grown woman. He was a grown man.<br />
Stop contridicting islam.<br /><b>References : </b><br />Me</p>
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		<title>By: Shaykh Arius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaykh Arius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 01:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact remains that the Prophet Muhammad [saas] never acted on any sort of temporal love or lust or desire for worldly gain whatsoever. Everything he did was with the intention of either pleasing God, helping someone less fortunate, doing something for the betterment of his people, or strengthening ties between friends. In the case of his marriage to Ayesha, all of these motivations come into play. Firstly, it was revealed to him by Allah [swt] that he should marry Ayesha [raa]. If you don't believe Muhammad [saas] is a Prophet that received messages from God, that is another matter, and that is what you should've asked about. 

He was also helping her father who had seen his daughter already denied marriage once [which shows also that it was nothing uncommon in this country and time]. 

It bettered his people because she lived a long time after him and was able to teach many Muslims for many years after his death and teach us things about him which have been preserved in our books. 

It strengthened the ties of kinship between himself and Abu Bakr [raa] -her father, who was his close friend and associate, and also serves as proof that the Prophet [saas] venerated the character of Abu Bakr... some later Muslims decided Abu Bakr [raa] was a bad person, yet this marriage shows how the Prophet [saas] loved Abu Bakr [raa] so that these misguided Muslims have no excuse.

Furthermore, the marriage was not consumated until Ayesha [raa] had her first menses and stopped playing with dolls... both of which were a sign of womanhood in Arab culture... a sign that she was mature and no longer a child... this is probably strange to modern people in the west because we still see 14 year olds as children and grown men these days are playing video games... But in 7th century Arabia it was a different matter... 8 and 9 year olds could be running their family store by that age, and this happens to this day in many parts of the world. It's all about your personal definition of a child, which is often times just an opinion, and is very relative and depending almost entirely on societal circumstance.

Hope this clarifies the issue for you.

Salaam/Peace&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact remains that the Prophet Muhammad [saas] never acted on any sort of temporal love or lust or desire for worldly gain whatsoever. Everything he did was with the intention of either pleasing God, helping someone less fortunate, doing something for the betterment of his people, or strengthening ties between friends. In the case of his marriage to Ayesha, all of these motivations come into play. Firstly, it was revealed to him by Allah [swt] that he should marry Ayesha [raa]. If you don&#8217;t believe Muhammad [saas] is a Prophet that received messages from God, that is another matter, and that is what you should&#8217;ve asked about. </p>
<p>He was also helping her father who had seen his daughter already denied marriage once [which shows also that it was nothing uncommon in this country and time]. </p>
<p>It bettered his people because she lived a long time after him and was able to teach many Muslims for many years after his death and teach us things about him which have been preserved in our books. </p>
<p>It strengthened the ties of kinship between himself and Abu Bakr [raa] -her father, who was his close friend and associate, and also serves as proof that the Prophet [saas] venerated the character of Abu Bakr&#8230; some later Muslims decided Abu Bakr [raa] was a bad person, yet this marriage shows how the Prophet [saas] loved Abu Bakr [raa] so that these misguided Muslims have no excuse.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the marriage was not consumated until Ayesha [raa] had her first menses and stopped playing with dolls&#8230; both of which were a sign of womanhood in Arab culture&#8230; a sign that she was mature and no longer a child&#8230; this is probably strange to modern people in the west because we still see 14 year olds as children and grown men these days are playing video games&#8230; But in 7th century Arabia it was a different matter&#8230; 8 and 9 year olds could be running their family store by that age, and this happens to this day in many parts of the world. It&#8217;s all about your personal definition of a child, which is often times just an opinion, and is very relative and depending almost entirely on societal circumstance.</p>
<p>Hope this clarifies the issue for you.</p>
<p>Salaam/Peace<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: chonu</title>
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		<dc:creator>chonu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 00:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the gurl has not yet reached puberty then yes it is haraaaammm but if the girl is mature enuff and has reached her puberty then it is not haraam. A guy can not consummate his marriage with wife before she reaches puberty!!

Also, if the 6 year old girl is mature enough to say yes to the marriage (which does not happen in this century) then only the marriage takes place.. if she is just a kid then she is not allowed to be married!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;muslim convert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the gurl has not yet reached puberty then yes it is haraaaammm but if the girl is mature enuff and has reached her puberty then it is not haraam. A guy can not consummate his marriage with wife before she reaches puberty!!</p>
<p>Also, if the 6 year old girl is mature enough to say yes to the marriage (which does not happen in this century) then only the marriage takes place.. if she is just a kid then she is not allowed to be married!!<br /><b>References : </b><br />muslim convert</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 00:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no it is halal because the prophet said it was and we must all do the same as the prophet lol. don't forget children to wipe your bum with your left hand and eat with your right hand what a book of old folk myths the koran is&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no it is halal because the prophet said it was and we must all do the same as the prophet lol. don&#8217;t forget children to wipe your bum with your left hand and eat with your right hand what a book of old folk myths the koran is<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: She said</title>
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		<dc:creator>She said</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 23:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not haram to consummate your marriage with your lawful wife when she has reached puberty. I think we already went through this did we not?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AodE2_y3WrdiYRBGPmpkoMrsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20100326053405AAlh2u8

''What makes you think any Muslim thinks ''pedophilia'' is OK at all? All throughout history it was common for girls to marry at the age of puberty ergo not children young women ergo not pedophilia, unless of course you don't know the definition of a pedophile? 
I take it you are referring to his marriage to Aisha which took place when she was 9, that does not mean the marriage was sexually motivated nor that the marriage was consummated, it was not. That did not occur until puberty.
There is nothing to make up my mind about. Pedophilia is not acceptable or part of Islam, end of....


Just for your info...

Definition of Pedophile ''pedophile - an adult who is sexually attracted to children''

Our Prophet (pbuh) was not sexually attracted to children ergo not a pedophile.''&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not haram to consummate your marriage with your lawful wife when she has reached puberty. I think we already went through this did we not?<br />
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<p>&#8221;What makes you think any Muslim thinks &#8221;pedophilia&#8221; is OK at all? All throughout history it was common for girls to marry at the age of puberty ergo not children young women ergo not pedophilia, unless of course you don&#8217;t know the definition of a pedophile?<br />
I take it you are referring to his marriage to Aisha which took place when she was 9, that does not mean the marriage was sexually motivated nor that the marriage was consummated, it was not. That did not occur until puberty.<br />
There is nothing to make up my mind about. Pedophilia is not acceptable or part of Islam, end of&#8230;.</p>
<p>Just for your info&#8230;</p>
<p>Definition of Pedophile &#8221;pedophile - an adult who is sexually attracted to children&#8221;</p>
<p>Our Prophet (pbuh) was not sexually attracted to children ergo not a pedophile.&#8221;<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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