How can anyone say Covering Face in Hajj is Fard?
Salam Alaikum..
1) Prophet saw and Sahabah saw a beautiful woman in Hajj and never ordered her to cover face, infact Prophet only turned the face of the man: (Bukhari)
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2) Aisha Saying it’s Optional to cover face with something, not Fard (Sahih)
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3) Read these Hadiths Supporting Niqab being Mustahab:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AgaNz1jsBR18g8IDpcLlkV_sy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20100525010013AA0RRnS
Lastly… even those who say that Niqaab is Fard for women… I don’t hear them saying that it’s Fard in Ihram because they are aware of these Hadiths.
@Boycott - I know!… I myself covered my face in makkah when I realised men were looking.. but I can’t Say to people it’s Fard!
@White Horse - They DID Cover their Face!… No one disputes this. I’m talking now about General Muslimas
@White Horse - Read the Evidence you Provided yourself… It said that either it’s Allowed or Muhrimah = My Case that I’m Discussing.
@Ducky - It is BEST to wear Niqaab. But Can I say it is a MUST? That we need Clear Proof for. We cannot say something is halal or Haram unless clear proof/command is given.
@Ducky - The Hadith I wrote about Aisha RA in Arabic: ???? ????? ?? ??????? ???? ????? ??? ????? ?? ????
"Aisha said for a woman in Ihram, to cover her face if she willed"
@??? ????? - Thanks for Understanding… Wallahi this Issue caused me Pain in the Heart!!!… I studied it so much… and I must put knowledge to you now…
** Yes it is the Full Hadith From Aisha RA.
@White Horse - Prophet’s Wives were Different.. Tell me.. Is the Verse about "From Behind a Screen" to All women or Prophet’s wives? sure it’s prophet wives directly. that is the Hijab.
What did His Wives do in Hajj?
Cover their Face with something other than Niqab.
What did other women do?
Either cover or not cover.
Do you deny the Bukhari Hadith and Aisha’s Hadith?
Regarding Slave Girls.. they used to uncover their Hair! Not their Face.. See Omar’s Hadeeth.
Regarding 4 Mathahib… 2 Said it’s Fard. 2 Said it’s Mustahab BUT should Cover when there is Fitnah.
The only reason I bring this up is because we cannot hide knowledge! You know how much this issue pained me? wallahi months and months… no sleep… And now I’m putting it for people to read and take with what rests their heart.
the sahabiyat had alot more freedom than we do now days
May 31st, 2010 at 7:56 am
the sahabiyat had alot more freedom than we do now days
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May 31st, 2010 at 8:06 am
does Covering Face was fard in the prophet’s wives ??
sure yes
so why they did not wear niqab in hijah ??
the prophet PBUH said do not wear niqb and that does not mean she should uncover her face
It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah said: The riders used to pass by us when we were with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in ihraam. When they came near us we would lower our jilbaabs from our heads over our faces, and when they had passed by we would uncover our faces. Narrated by Abu Dawood, 1562.
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May 31st, 2010 at 8:47 am
Wa alaykum salaam
Ask your self sister, what is better for a Believing woman, to emulate the ways of those who were the best, or going by what we feel is required or not??
When in a state of ihram, the muslimah cannot wear niqab. However, according to several scholars, such as Sheikh ibn Baz, even when in a state of ihram, "she should lower her headcovering or outer cloak over her face when she is in the presence of non-mahram men." So, it is to say that she should not cover her face around the other women during ihram, but that she should cover it if a non-mahram man approaches. He bases this on the hadith below, narrated by ‘Aisha .
In Fathul Bari, chapter Hajj, a tradition reported on the authority of Aisha (RA) says:
"A woman in a state of Ihram (during Hajj and Umrah) should stretch her head - cloth over to her face to hide it."
Hadith - Recorded by Ahmad, Abu Dawud and ibn Majah, Narrated ‘Aisha.
So, whether agreeing that niqab is required or not, one must surely acknowledge that it is a desirous sign of piety. What better example of sunnah to follow for a muslimah than that of the Prophet (saw) and his wives (ra). Every Muslimah is encouraged to cover to the fullest.
A woman does not have to wear a niqab (affixed veil), but she should emulate the female companions by using her hijab or other items, to lift and cover her face when a non-mahram man approaches, even during ihram (hajj), as this is in accordance with sunnah.
**It would be better if you put the hadith in english too, not all of us are able to read and understand Arabic**
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Jazak’Allah Khair, I thought you just put an overview and the full hadeeth in Arabic.
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May 31st, 2010 at 9:16 am
Is that the full hadith from Aishah in your second point ? @ Ducky, etc, I dont think the sister is against following the Prophet’s wives, but this is an issue in which we seek to see the evidence for and against. I don’t think anyone here disagrees oon whether it is better to follow the wives of the Prophet or not. The kuffar disagreeign with us or not does not matter to us. Please don’t use that shallow argument against your fellow brothers and sisters when they are trying to understand an issue..Our scholars, from the salaf, used to disagree..even the sahabah disagreed on some issues ! And this is from someone who views niqab as fard in general, but I am of difference of view regarding during hajj.
Addition : I think, personally, when you look at this issue with all the ahadeeth on it, it seems that the veiling of face in Hajj is highly recommended, not obligatory. Otherwise, we can’t explain the statement of Aishah and the Prophet’s action of turning the head of the sahabi, etc. For thsoe who disagree still, either you deny these narrations or you can explain how these narrations fit in…obviously, if it was obligatory, then why woudl the Prophet not command that woman to cover her face, and Aishah as well !?
Yes, the face is centre of beauty and what not…but this is not the way to legislate in Islaam. Allaah legislates for humanity as He created. If you use that argument, then I can say cover the eyes as well, because it is the centre of beauty of the face…etc.. So upon us is to find out what Allaah legislated, and submit to that. it doesn’t matter how passionate we are on a certain topic, as passion does not mean correctness.
Wassalaamu alaykum.
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May 31st, 2010 at 9:37 am
no its nt fard if u want u can use niqaab da same is in hajj u r not allowed 2 cover ur face with da nosepiece bt u can use a hat like thing at da top n leave a cloth down frm tht hat .so it should not touch ur face cuz it may cause suffocation in hajj cuz of da crowd it should b away frm d aface bt its nt compulsory
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May 31st, 2010 at 10:07 am
Bismillah
During hajj niqab is not fard. Its Mustahib if some one put on niqab that is more of her righteousness.
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May 31st, 2010 at 10:23 am
Why do you specifically choose hajj now? And who said covering the face in hajj should be done?
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May 31st, 2010 at 11:04 am
Is it permissible for the woman in Ihraam to cover her face?
It is permissible for the woman who is in a state of Ihraam to cover her face with an adjoining/alternative (cloth) other than the niqaab and the burqa’.
Shaykh ul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah
Ikhtiyaaraat al-Fiqhiyyah min Fataawaa Shaikh ul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah page 117
Translated by Aboo Haatim Muhammad Farooq
please stop using abbreviations, read this:
http://bakkah.net/interactive/q&a/aawa004.htm
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http://fatwaislam.com/fis/index.cfm?scn=fd&ID=757
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