Ramadan: How do ‘Quranists’ perform Hajj?
What are the manasik of Hajj according to their belief?
Huh? I deleted my own questions? Why would I do that?
From here I know that the ‘Quranists’:
1) Only follow verses about Hajj like crimson hassan and the period is within 4 months.
2) Perform Hajj like everybody else like Barry Nabelsi
3) Perform Hajj at anytime and anywhere like ‘Quranist’ Bella
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=At66_CL.8zPnUwfNO69SKSHsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20091205175109AAZHyf3&show=7#profile-info-bmGGMLONaa
I guess if not for the Hadith, the nowadays Muslims will be looking at the thread to see the changes for the time for fasting according to Surah 2 verse 187 unlike today …
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let alone hajj how do they pray or give zakah ?
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answer mine ?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091204010057AAfrnTt&r=w
December 25th, 2009 at 1:05 am
Quranists don’t perform hajj, they don’t even pray 5 times but only 3 times.
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December 25th, 2009 at 1:43 am
What you should ask yourself is.
Is the Hajj I am doing in the Quran? Then let Allah guide you I can explain but it will be like trying to talk to the dead. Can the dead hear? NO
Then after I explain you will delete the Question and, my effort gone!
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December 25th, 2009 at 2:17 am
Bismillah
Dear Brother,
They are a deviated group. They do not obey Quran. We must make a Dua for them as they desperately need it.
May Allah guide them to the straight path…Amen
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December 25th, 2009 at 3:06 am
You should ask, How does "Quran" describes Hajj.
Well, pretty much the same but with least emphasis on quantifications, and minus the pagan rituals (see the list at the end).
All the details of Hajj can be found in Quran, in consonance with Quran’s claim of providing exhaustive religious knowledge (12:111, 16:89, 6:114).
[12:111] This is not fabricated Hadith; this (Quran) confirms all previous scriptures, provides the DETAILS OF EVERYTHING, and is a beacon and mercy for those who believe.
The following are the determinants and components of Hajj:
The commencement of Hajj (2:189)
Duration of Hajj (2:197) Its not just 4 days but 4 months that GOD has sanctioned !! [12,1,2,3]
Abstentions (Ehraam) during Hajj:
a.Hunting (5:1-2), (5:95)
b.War and fighting (2:217)
c.Sexual intercourse, misconduct and arguments (2:197)
d.The cutting of the hair (2:196)
The ‘Tawaaf’ (circling the Kaaba) (22:29)
The Safa and Marwah (2:158)
Mount Arafat (2:198)
Animal Offerings (22:36), (5:97)
These are the rites of Hajj that are decreed by God.
The following are the Pagan Rituals which are not decreed by God and has no bases and no authorization in Islam:
1.Black Stone (the meteorite)
2.Water of zamzam
3.The Stoning ritual
4.The Hajj garments (white towels)
5.Hajj by Deputisation!
6.Women not allowed to perform Hajj without a Mihrim!
7.Women (during menstruation) deprived of their Prayers, (and thus not completing Hajj rituals)!
8.Visiting the Prophet"s tomb in Medina and declaring it a second "sacred masjid" in addition to Quran’s use of this phrase.
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http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/al-hajj_(P1195).html
December 25th, 2009 at 3:33 am
@ Abbas, I PRAY FIVE TIMES YOU IGNORANT FOOL!
Hello brother, well, we perform hajj the way you guys do. Remember, we do not reject ALL hadith, we reject the ones that CONTRADICT QURAN, THAT TELLS US THIS IS HARAM (example is that we shouldn’t hang portraits, yeah Allah REALLY cares about that!). But we still follow Hadith that tells us vitalities in Islam, like how to pray.
If everything is moderate, peace will roam the Earth!
Again @ Abbas and all his ilk, GET EDUCATED.
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December 25th, 2009 at 3:55 am
Aslam-o-Alikum,
How are you brother? That’s a really good question, I doubt if they even perform Hajj…but may Allah correct me…May Allah guide us all..Ameen
I hope I helped
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December 25th, 2009 at 4:16 am
why is the word quanist getting that common these days. why one new sect coming in the limelight. why give such importance to them. why do we give ourselves and other labels. there was no sunni shia or quranist during the time of Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) . Prophet Peace be upon him never label himself with any sect.
I think let them be on their own. i just found out this word only a week back. these are the propaganda of enemies of islam. the only difference between muslims and other religion of the books is that they dont believe in the teaching of the prophet muhammad . even though they know that he was the most guided one.
Allah knows the best. but i fail to understand why people give them importance.
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December 25th, 2009 at 4:45 am
Quranist reject sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). There are 24 verses commanding us to follow Muhammad (pbuh), how can one ingore all the 24 verses..? They even do not hasitate to put blaspheme question, answers and remarks. They are utterly bold to please satan. They follow their own whim, wishes. Allah is The Most Wise, but they consider themselves the wise.
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December 25th, 2009 at 5:35 am
@barry - well not this ”quranists” isnt that right bella? This is your ”about me” on your homepage?
”About me: http://www.free-minds.org
100% hadith/Sunnah rejector
1 God, 1 Book Quran
mom ”
See that barry 100% hadith/sunnah rejected? What a load of nonsense…
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December 25th, 2009 at 6:14 am
They are a deviated groups and they purposely are trying to defame and malign Islam, crimson hasan mentioned a web site belonging to "Quranist", they propogate to eat dogs & cats and call it a True Islam. Every one to stay away from these guys. its said that practice before you preach, i urge some one to ask them as to how the dogs & cats meat tastes like. lol
This is how these guys misguide innocent muslims & reverts who do not have much knowledge of quran.
Read the website belonging to Quranist.
http://www.quran-islam.org/meat_of_dogs_and_cats_(P1138).html
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December 25th, 2009 at 6:28 am
hope she will find the solution in quran
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December 25th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Assalaamu alaikkum brother
I don’t know, Alhamduillah not a quranist.
@Quranist Bella : I wasted my precious 3 seconds reading your trash oops I mean answer
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December 25th, 2009 at 7:31 am
let alone hajj how do they pray or give zakah ?
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answer mine ?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091204010057AAfrnTt&r=w
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January 13th, 2010 at 5:31 am
Sunnis believe in killing prisoners of war and believe in raping women captives and believe in drin king camel urine so why are you all worried about eating cats and dogs? Pluys Quranist come from different backgrounds and have different persuasion but are united that whatever is a must for us has been explicitly mentioned in Quran and the rest is accepted differences.
Some Quranist reject anything other than Quran. Thats ok. Some accepts some hadiths if it don’t contradict the Quran. Thats also Ok. Some accept the rituals of Suinnis but not hadiths since it don’t contradict the Quran. Thats also OK. As long as no consensus without Quran and no obligation without Quran like Sunnis do.
So lets get our priorities right.
I myself look at Quran but also Old and New Testament for my guidance but i respect and support other Quranist who may have different ways to seek more knowledge. In the end the issues that matter are in the Quran and mentioned explicitly. The Quran itself says there are established verses and there are verses with allegorical meanings. This is part of God’s plan.
But if you follow Sunni hadiths as they are without questioning any of them than you are not following the Quran due to the many contradiction between Sunni or Shia hadiths and the Quran.
What I find amazing is Sunnis don’t have a problem questioning Shia hadith and vice versa and yet they hate it when people question their hadiths.
Quran is freedom and Quran is peace!