Ramadan Shia: Do you care about what the Fallible Ahlul "Sunnah" scholars say about you?
If all or most have declared you as a kaffir, does it affect your faith? Does it stop you from performing Hajj and Umrah?
do u feel affected bro????
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November 13th, 2009 at 1:36 am
LMAO i couldnt care less to be honest. They should keep trying harder :).
@ "Libbo" Muslim — As you can see from the title, this was clearly directed at the Shia users. Stop being a Shia wannabe.
@Deedat– No Shia cares about your "Shia to sunni" coverts. Keep them as a motivation to yourself
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November 13th, 2009 at 2:23 am
no it does not affect my faith in anyway
btw have you read or heard any of Dr tahir ul qadri lectures ?
he is sunni but im a big fan dr tahir ul qadri
http://www.deenislam.com/islam/index.php check it out if u have time
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November 13th, 2009 at 2:54 am
Here are some Shia scholars who saw the light and became sunnis:
First of all, the grand Ayatullah Abu Al-Fadl bin Ridha Al-Barqa’ei. He passed away 7 or 8 yrs ago, may Allah have mercy on his soul.
Then, Sayyed Asad Allah Al-Kharaqani.
Ayatullah Sharee’at Sin’ghalji
Dr. Ahmed Kisravi, the grand court leader in IRan during the 50’s who was killed when he published some articles exposing Shiasim.
Dr. Shi’ar
Sayyed Mustafa Tab’teba’ei
Dr. Hujjatallah Mousa Al-Mousawi
Hujjatallah Hussain Al-Mousawi
And there are many Shia scholars who became Sunnis in Iran but are afraid from the revenge of the ruling regime. Therefore, they conceal their identity.
On the other hand, you do not see a sunni imam who becomes a shia!
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Imaam Ali (r.a.) said: "With regard to me, two categories of people will be ruined, namely he who loves me too much and the love takes him away from rightfulness, and he who hates me too much and the hatred takes him away from rightfulness. The best man with regard to me is he who is on the middle course. So be with him and be with the great majority (of Muslims) because Allah’s hand (of protection) is on keeping unity." [Nahjul Balagha, sermon 126 about the Kharijites]
In the that time, people who called them selves Muslims were three groups :
1- Kharijites who said that Imam Ali was a disbeliever and they send Ibn Muljim to kill him and he did that.
2- Shia who said that he was infalleble Imam and Allah had chosen him for leading Muslims.
3- Sunnies ( Majority of Muslims ) who said that he was a great companion of the prophet and he was a great leader to Muslims but Muslims had chosen him to be thier leader not Allah.
Who are the people of the middle course & the great majority (of Muslims) as Imam Ali said in his sermon, Read Imam Ali’s words and then look to the three groups and you will find the answer!
* Imaam Hasan bin Ali (r.a.)
‘Aasim bin Damrah said to Hasan bin Ali that the Shi`ites claim that Ali will come back. Then Imaam Hasan said: "Those liers lied. If we had known that, his wives would not have married (other men) nor would we have shared his heritage."
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imam ali )R.A) burn shia before if he come again as you believe he will burn shia again
November 13th, 2009 at 3:26 am
Hell no brother, these salafi god-wannabes only make me more glad to be a Shia and not a part of their faith that teaches them hypcorisy and arrogance, that they feel they should do Allah’s work and judge who is a muslim and who is not.
These so called scholars and their fatwas can go to hell for all I care. I should expect nothing better from salafis when they call us kaffirs, simply because we choose to follow the Prophet’s pure progeny (as). Never did expect these salafis to have any respect for the Prophet’s ahlul bait anyway.
I’ll be going to Hajj and Umrah if i want to and as many times as I want to AlhamdulilAllah, what are they gonna do about it?
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November 13th, 2009 at 4:13 am
Ok this fallible infallible stuff has to stop, only Allah is infallible, how can people be infallible, not even our beloved Mohammad PBUH was infallible, Allah had to kind of say to him, you can’t do that in the Quran, so lets accept that the scholars did a good job and got it 90% right, we can figure out the rest slowly, no need to rush because all the main things everybody agree on. You know, one Allah, judgment Day, messengers, books and angels. So, where is the problem.
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November 13th, 2009 at 4:34 am
Allah (Swt) alone is the best of all judges and His (Swt) court of justice is the fairest of all.
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November 13th, 2009 at 5:01 am
No bro. Never.
I just bow before logic.
@ deedat: I am waiting to be down with my "mashroo"
Then by discussing with you, maybe you can add my name to your list! (God may help both of us being objective, open-minded, away of undue intolerance and truth seeker)
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Logic seeker
November 13th, 2009 at 5:12 am
Nope
And among men is he whose speech about the life of this world causes you to wonder, and he calls on Allah to witness as to what is in his heart, yet he is the most violent of adversaries. And when he turns back, he runs along in the land that he may cause mischief in it and destroy the tilth and the stock, and Allah does not love mischief-making. And when it is said to him, guard against (the punishment of) Allah; pride carries him off to sin, therefore hell is sufficient for him; and certainly it is an evil resting place.
Quran [2:204-206]
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November 13th, 2009 at 5:52 am
do u feel affected bro????
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November 13th, 2009 at 6:28 am
hahaha yes i cant sleep at night when i see NOUB calling us kaffirs. its so sad
nothing is ever gonna stop me, not even the lovely email from deedat telling me im unhappy……
@deedat: ya freak, keep ur opinons to yourself, i aint even remotely interested.
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shia 4 life
November 13th, 2009 at 7:00 am
i don’t care if they call me kaffir i like what i follow and i’m a muslim no matter what they say and it doesn’t affect my faith in a bad way it makes it stronger and i will not be stopped in doing hajj and umrah they could just go and kick their heads in a way cuz no matter what i’m a muslim and i believe in allah and mohammed and my imams
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November 13th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Allah SWT know best but Sahih Bukhari Arabic-English Volume 9 hadith number 468 and Volume 7 hadith 573 sets out that one of Islam’s greatest tragedy took place..
When the time of the death of the Prophet approached while there were some men in the house, and among them was ‘Umar Ibn al-Khattab, the Prophet said: "Come near let me write for you a writing after which you will never go astray." ‘Umar said: "The Prophet is seriously ill (hizyan- mentally incapicitated), and you have the Qur’an, so Allah’s Book is sufficient for us."
The people in the house differed and disputed. Some of them said, "Come near so that Allah’s Apostle may write for you a writing after which you will not go astray," while the others said what ‘Umar said.
When they made much noise and quarreled greatly in front of the Prophet, angered he said to them, "Go away and leave me." Ibn ‘Abbas used to say, "It was a great disaster that their quarrel and noise prevented Allah’s Apostle from writing a statement for them.
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Some have highlighted that this would be contrary to the Surah Najm 53:2 "Your companion (Blessed Prophet SAW) does not err, nor does he go astray".
Muslim (Volume 9, Book 92, Number 405) records that Ibn Abi Mulaika related that Abu Bakr and ‘Umar were on the verge of destruction (and that was because): When the delegate of Bani Tamim came to the Prophet, one of them (either Abu Bakr or ‘Umar) recommended Al-Aqra’ bin Habis At-Tamimi Al-Hanzali, the brother of Bani Majashi (to be appointed as their chief), while the other recommended somebody else. Abu Bakr said to ‘Umar, "You intended only to oppose me." ‘Umar said, "I did not intend to oppose you!" Then their voices grew louder in front of the Prophet whereupon there was revealed: "Lift not up your voices above the voice of the Prophet, nor shout when speaking to him as ye shout one to another, lest your works be rendered vain while ye perceive not." (HQ 49:2)
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November 13th, 2009 at 7:49 am
No, who cares what irrelevant people think
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November 13th, 2009 at 8:09 am
i feel sorry for them. they cant see, they cant hear, and, they speak all rubbish.
a biggest blow to islam.
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November 13th, 2009 at 8:43 am
no i really dont care what sunnis say about me……
I am glad that i am a shia muslim
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