Non muslim, take the challange to reduce water in abe zamzam,near kabah,the house Allah,structured by Abraham?
abe zumzum, the water spring near kabah, the house of Allah made by Abraham(pbuh), is full of water from 7000 years, even wen whole world is extractng water from it. the entire city of mecca and Madina live on the water of that sprinf and it is there from 7000 years and will continue to give water like this till the end of world, AND THIS IS IN A LAND WHERE THERE IS ALMOST NO RAIN.
so will you still deny about Allah or can u take the challange to reduce its water if it is not a miracle
Allah is not going to come in front of humans that here i am, worship me, bcz it will ruin the whole concept of belief in God, as it requires believe in the unseen, faith based on signs of Allah, and this is a sign.
and it has been proved in parallel universe concept of M theory of particle physics that we cant see parallel universes by any means, so it is scientific that a unseen world does exist, read about M theory.
And can u give a single reason that y the water level doesnt get reducd no matter how much powerfull pump one may use, no matter the entire world starts livng on its water bt it will nvr reduce
the question is not from where does the water comes, the questn is no matter wat u do bt it never get redcd nor will it,
saudis with there most powrfull pumps which are running from years, are extrctng water frm it and not even a single drop is reducd
even if one fills an enite ocean with it, Inshallah it will nevr reduce, Its not mine, Its Allah’s promise
to Leviathan:- are u Christian or an atheist, if u r a Christian then u doubting Prphet Abraham and Prophet Ismail, i dnt knw whther ur bible still contains the story of structuring of kabah or not, bt let me tell u that, most of the stories of bible which u contribute to isaac are actually stories of ismail in islam, including the story in which abraham agreed to sacrifice isaac as per God’s order
To Melnazar, improve ur knowledge of islam, kabah was built first by Adam but was rebuilted by Abraham(pbuh), it got repaired thereafter, AND ABEZAMZAM WAS GIVEN AS A GIFT TO ISMAIL AND HIS MOTHER ON THE PRAYER OF ABRAHAM, WHEN HE LEFT THEM IN Mecca. it was 7000 years ago
TO THE BRAIN:- u think u r better knower of water resources than me, do not i knw there are undrgrnd water resources, but no single well can fulfill the needs of all water requirmnt of two metros and of millions of devotees who come there each day, go and take any amount of water u want from there, and supply it to anywhere u want, u will never find any reduction in it. the saudis supply it to there cities, u can supply it to yours
Chritsians do not tell me wat Abraham(pbuh) did wat he didnt, he was our prophet, he was the father of all prophets after him, i know about him better than you, if ur priest would hv not contaMinated Bible, u would hv know that he built kabah, and the Hajj we perform is His traditions which we follow, and the holy stone" makame ibrahimi" in near kabah is his footsteps, first read about islam and then argue me in some other forum
it can never dry up cant u see that, it may happen that if water is extracted at very high rate thenfor a small period of time its level get reduced by small amount, but it replenishes itself quickly even if water is extracted at the same rate.
And those who say that its challange can never be tested, dont u see that people are continuously extracting water from it from the times of Abraham, and they are coming from all over the world in millions, each day.
Go and read the history of makkah first and history of hajj pilgrimage first. Hajj was perfomed even before Prophet muhammad, however its form was different, but drinking of Abe zamzam and taking it back to there homes was tradition that was followed continuously since the time of abraham
to melnazar, who said kabah was not filled with statues, we all know that, it was due to ignorance of banu quraish and banu tamim, the descendant of ismail that they forgot almost all of the teachngs of ismail and abraham and started paganism, this was the time wen last prophet came to replenish islam.
And this is no new, it happened with every prophet, with Moses also. during the time of Moses, bani Israeilis forgot almost all the teachngs of Yakub(Jacob), opposed Moses at many occasions, they started worshpng cow’s statue in his absence, they even denied Jesus as promised massiah. the same happen during the time of last Prophet. His tribe used to follow paganism that time and filled space around kabah with statues.
You are gonna get flamed for this brother and so am I, but yes, allah is magnificent. =)
July 21st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
You know this is the religion section not the "Praise Allahhh alalalaalalaaaaa *Boom*" Section.
Go find that one please and tell me what colors of C4 are in style this season
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July 21st, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Take the challenge…….. to write a readable question.
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July 21st, 2010 at 5:56 pm
So where is all the water coming from in your theory? Another dimension? If you created a pump could you get out enough water to create a new ocean 30 kilometres deeper than any current ocean? You people are so delusional it’s hard to know where to begin with you.
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July 21st, 2010 at 6:22 pm
ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!!!!!
some people will try to deny this like how Thomas is denying it..
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July 21st, 2010 at 7:01 pm
go anywhere and dig a deep enough hole and youll hit water
there are underground lakes and wells you know
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July 21st, 2010 at 7:20 pm
An aquifer is not a miracle, not even in a desert. Rain falls in one place, percolates down into the sedimentary rock, and can flow great distances through that rock medium.
And why do I need to reduce it? Mecca is reducing it plenty as is. Give it 20 years and Mecca will be needing the "miracle" of desalination.
If it’s so "miraculously replenishing", then why are these folks concerned about its recharge rate and potential depletion?
http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/zamza…
Indeed, the high sodium levels in the water of the well suggest that depletion is already well underway, and that like other major Saudi aquifers, seawater has begun to flow into them to fill the void.
Edit: where you have a point is that it will never dry up. It will, however become increasingly saline. Give it time…
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July 21st, 2010 at 7:45 pm
You are gonna get flamed for this brother and so am I, but yes, allah is magnificent. =)
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July 21st, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Gosh, and I thought there was a worldwide shortage of clean fresh water.
But I guess the problem is just insufficient pipelines.
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July 21st, 2010 at 8:17 pm
I agree with you on the water. But I think faith is not about believing in something you cant see, but what God will do for you in the end. There is way more than enough proof to know God exists.
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July 21st, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Source : Underground water source and river. DUH. Nothing divine.
By the way, the Kaaba was built in the 4rth century, prior to that there was not a single mention of it in that area or the neighbouring area despite being on an heavily used merchant road. Ooops, the Quran got that wrong.
@asker : If that was so, then there would be at least ONE text prior to the 4rth century talking about the Kabaa. But no, the first mentions of it is it’s construction as a temple to honour the Sumerian god Hubal, also known as Noorma, the moon god. You really should learn history instead of myths.
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July 21st, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Yeah you are right it will never reduce,i totally agree with you.I am a muslim too and i feel very proud that i am a muslim,the islam is the purest religion in the world for me,but for the others is the catholic,and so it goes on,but in the end we all belive in one god and all of us now that its ALLAH,no one is more powerful than him,he is the greatest and no one can compare with him.I really respect catholic people but i can’t understand how they can belive that jesus is the son of the god,he is just a prophet but not a god son.In the end this is my opinion i just told what i think and i totally agree with you,its ALLAH’s promise!
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July 21st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Mashallah!
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July 21st, 2010 at 10:18 pm
God in His mercy gives water in a dry land. How does this prove the godship of Allah. We believe in God, but His name is Yahweh. His Son’s name is Jesus. Jesus lived in heaven with His Father God before He was born of a virgin on earth. So Jesus is unique in the universe- He is all God; He is all man. There is none like Him. He worked many miracles, signs and wonders here on earth; and He gave His followers powers to work miracles to validate their words. Jesus came to redeem mankind from their sins. To pay the price that Father God demanded for mankind’s sins. Each of us have to make a choice of our free will to take the blood that Jesus shed on the Cross for pay for our sins and wash them away. We all need His blood to wash these sins off. That is the only substance in the universe that can wash away sins. After He died on the cross, Jesus went into hell and stripped satan of his power over mankind. Then Jesus came back to life, He resurrected by the powers of the Holy Spirit who is also God. He was seen by many people after His resurrection. Then Jesus ascended into heaven; when He got there, He sent the Holy Spirit, also God, to the earth. The Holy Spirit is a spirit of truth who can lead all into the realm of Truth. Blessings on you. I cannot pray to reduce water and take the peoples’ water away. That would be too cruel. I will pray that they will never lose their water supply. This is the Christian thing to do. Again, blessings on you and all who take water from the well.
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July 21st, 2010 at 10:25 pm
you didn’t mention what nano technology siad about zamzam ….
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Allah Akbar!
July 21st, 2010 at 10:45 pm
I don’t have to meet your challenge, because the entire PREMISE is absurd.
There is no way to document the origins of this house, who built it, or who owned it, with any degree of specificity. You BELIEVE it was built by Abraham, but you do not have proof.
Therefore your premise is failed.
Plus, I guess you don’t know anything about wells, do you? It is not at all unusual to remove water from a well but the water level remains fairly constant. Did Abraham build all the wells in the world…? It’s just not a miracle and it’s silly to think that it is.
And you also make another logically failed claim, because it has never been tested and is therefore a speculation (and not even one based upon sound thought) — that is the claim that if everyone in the world started living off this water it would never be reduced. That just can’t be proved unless tested, and of course such a thing will never be tested. And to make the claim that at any point in time the entire world was living off that water is just a fabrication (that’s a fancy way of saying a LIE). Native Americans were never living off that water, people in Europe were never living off that water, or the people in what is now Asia, were never living off that water. In fact, the only sensible conclusion about who lived off that water 7000 years ago would be that the only users were very localized or at best, travelers passing through. .
Further, even in desert areas there is almost always ground water deep in the ground. That is why wells can be dug in desert areas to begin with. Not a miracle.
But finally, even IF everything you claimed was true, that would not prove Allah, the Koran, Mohamed, or Islam as the true religion, and to believe that it would is yet another logical fallacy.
I strongly recommend that you take a course in logic.
Oh, plus you need to understand the difference between folklore and historical fact – because what you have presented is nothing BUT folklore, and not documented fact.
In fact you appear rather simple minded and foolish.
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July 21st, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Subhanallah.
People say this isn’t a miracle but I don’t care because there are a bunch of other miracles right here in our Qur’an.
http://www.quranandscience.com/
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July 21st, 2010 at 11:53 pm
Abraham never built the kabah in Saudi Arabia.
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July 22nd, 2010 at 12:23 am
A little bit of research tells me that:
(a) The water level in the Zamzam well does indeed drop when water is pumped out at a high rate
(b) Mecca is surrounded by mountains where rainfall reaches 240mm per year or more
(c) Saudi Arabia has lots of very large underground reservoirs called aquifers that are left over from the Ice Age
and (d) The Zamzam water is salty, which makes it taste nasty and makes it useless for irrigation. If the water is of divine origin, why would Allah spoil it with salt?
So my conclusion is that your claims for the miraculous nature of this well are just wishful thinking.
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http://www.int-res.com/articles/cr/9/c009p213.pdf
http://washmena.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/saudi-arabia-ice-age-aquifers-searching-for-water-under-the-sands/