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		<title>By: charcinders</title>
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		<dc:creator>charcinders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little bit of research tells me that:

(a) The water level in the Zamzam well does indeed drop when water is pumped out at a high rate

(b) Mecca is surrounded by mountains where rainfall reaches 240mm per year or more

(c) Saudi Arabia has lots of very large underground reservoirs called aquifers that are left over from the Ice Age

and (d) The Zamzam water is salty, which makes it taste nasty and makes it useless for irrigation. If the water is of divine origin, why would Allah spoil it with salt?

So my conclusion is that your claims for the miraculous nature of this well are just wishful thinking.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://www.int-res.com/articles/cr/9/c009p213.pdf
http://washmena.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/saudi-arabia-ice-age-aquifers-searching-for-water-under-the-sands/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little bit of research tells me that:</p>
<p>(a) The water level in the Zamzam well does indeed drop when water is pumped out at a high rate</p>
<p>(b) Mecca is surrounded by mountains where rainfall reaches 240mm per year or more</p>
<p>(c) Saudi Arabia has lots of very large underground reservoirs called aquifers that are left over from the Ice Age</p>
<p>and (d) The Zamzam water is salty, which makes it taste nasty and makes it useless for irrigation. If the water is of divine origin, why would Allah spoil it with salt?</p>
<p>So my conclusion is that your claims for the miraculous nature of this well are just wishful thinking.<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://www.int-res.com/articles/cr/9/c009p213.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.int-res.com/articles/cr/9/c009p213.pdf</a><br />
<a href="http://washmena.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/saudi-arabia-ice-age-aquifers-searching-for-water-under-the-sands/" rel="nofollow">http://washmena.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/saudi-arabia-ice-age-aquifers-searching-for-water-under-the-sands/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abraham never built the kabah in Saudi Arabia.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abraham never built the kabah in Saudi Arabia.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: I says</title>
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		<dc:creator>I says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subhanallah.

People say this isn't a miracle but I don't care because there are a bunch of other miracles right here in our Qur'an.

http://www.quranandscience.com/&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subhanallah.</p>
<p>People say this isn&#8217;t a miracle but I don&#8217;t care because there are a bunch of other miracles right here in our Qur&#8217;an.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.quranandscience.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.quranandscience.com/</a><br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: scotgirl60</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotgirl60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have to meet your challenge, because the entire PREMISE is absurd.

There is no way to document the origins of this house, who built it, or who owned it, with any degree of specificity.  You BELIEVE it was built by Abraham, but you do not have proof. 

Therefore your premise is failed. 

Plus, I guess you don't know anything about wells, do you?  It is not at all unusual to remove water from a well but the water level remains fairly constant.  Did Abraham build all the wells in the world...?  It's just not a miracle and it's silly to think that it is.

And you also make another logically failed claim, because it has never been tested and is therefore a speculation (and not even one based upon sound thought) -- that is the claim that if everyone in the world started living off this water it would never be reduced.  That just can’t be proved unless tested, and of course such a thing will never be tested.  And to make the claim that at any point in time the entire world was living off that water is just a fabrication (that’s a fancy way of saying a LIE).  Native Americans were never living off that water, people in Europe were never living off that water, or the people in what is now Asia, were never living off that water.  In fact, the only sensible conclusion about who lived off that water 7000 years ago would be that the only users were very localized or at best, travelers passing through.  . 

Further, even in desert areas there is almost always ground water deep in the ground.  That is why wells can be dug in desert areas to begin with.  Not a miracle. 

But finally, even IF everything you claimed was true, that would not prove Allah, the Koran, Mohamed, or Islam as the true religion, and to believe that it would is yet another logical fallacy. 

I strongly recommend that you take a course in logic.

Oh, plus you need to understand the difference between folklore and historical fact – because what you have presented is nothing BUT folklore, and not documented fact.

In fact you appear rather simple minded and foolish.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have to meet your challenge, because the entire PREMISE is absurd.</p>
<p>There is no way to document the origins of this house, who built it, or who owned it, with any degree of specificity.  You BELIEVE it was built by Abraham, but you do not have proof. </p>
<p>Therefore your premise is failed. </p>
<p>Plus, I guess you don&#8217;t know anything about wells, do you?  It is not at all unusual to remove water from a well but the water level remains fairly constant.  Did Abraham build all the wells in the world&#8230;?  It&#8217;s just not a miracle and it&#8217;s silly to think that it is.</p>
<p>And you also make another logically failed claim, because it has never been tested and is therefore a speculation (and not even one based upon sound thought) &#8212; that is the claim that if everyone in the world started living off this water it would never be reduced.  That just can’t be proved unless tested, and of course such a thing will never be tested.  And to make the claim that at any point in time the entire world was living off that water is just a fabrication (that’s a fancy way of saying a LIE).  Native Americans were never living off that water, people in Europe were never living off that water, or the people in what is now Asia, were never living off that water.  In fact, the only sensible conclusion about who lived off that water 7000 years ago would be that the only users were very localized or at best, travelers passing through.  . </p>
<p>Further, even in desert areas there is almost always ground water deep in the ground.  That is why wells can be dug in desert areas to begin with.  Not a miracle. </p>
<p>But finally, even IF everything you claimed was true, that would not prove Allah, the Koran, Mohamed, or Islam as the true religion, and to believe that it would is yet another logical fallacy. </p>
<p>I strongly recommend that you take a course in logic.</p>
<p>Oh, plus you need to understand the difference between folklore and historical fact – because what you have presented is nothing BUT folklore, and not documented fact.</p>
<p>In fact you appear rather simple minded and foolish.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: THE BIG BOSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>THE BIG BOSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you didn't mention what nano technology siad about zamzam ....&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Allah Akbar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you didn&#8217;t mention what nano technology siad about zamzam &#8230;.<br /><b>References : </b><br />Allah Akbar!</p>
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		<title>By: libertywarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>libertywarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God in His mercy gives water in a dry land. How does this prove the godship of Allah. We believe in God, but His name is Yahweh. His Son's name is Jesus. Jesus lived in heaven with His Father God before He was born of a virgin on earth. So Jesus is unique in the universe- He is all God; He is all man. There is none like Him. He worked many miracles, signs and wonders here on earth; and He gave His followers powers to work miracles to validate their words. Jesus came to redeem mankind from their sins. To pay the price that Father God demanded for mankind's sins. Each of us have to make a choice of our free will to take the blood that Jesus shed on the Cross for pay for our sins and wash them away. We all need His blood to wash these sins off. That is the only substance in the universe that can wash away sins. After He died on the cross, Jesus went into hell and stripped satan of his power over mankind. Then Jesus came back to life, He resurrected by the powers of the Holy Spirit who is also God. He was seen by many people after His resurrection. Then Jesus ascended into heaven; when He got there, He sent the Holy Spirit, also God, to the earth. The Holy Spirit is a spirit of truth who can lead all into the realm of Truth. Blessings on you. I cannot pray to reduce water and take the peoples' water away. That would be too cruel. I will pray that they will never lose their water supply. This is the Christian thing to do. Again, blessings on you and all who take water from the well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God in His mercy gives water in a dry land. How does this prove the godship of Allah. We believe in God, but His name is Yahweh. His Son&#8217;s name is Jesus. Jesus lived in heaven with His Father God before He was born of a virgin on earth. So Jesus is unique in the universe- He is all God; He is all man. There is none like Him. He worked many miracles, signs and wonders here on earth; and He gave His followers powers to work miracles to validate their words. Jesus came to redeem mankind from their sins. To pay the price that Father God demanded for mankind&#8217;s sins. Each of us have to make a choice of our free will to take the blood that Jesus shed on the Cross for pay for our sins and wash them away. We all need His blood to wash these sins off. That is the only substance in the universe that can wash away sins. After He died on the cross, Jesus went into hell and stripped satan of his power over mankind. Then Jesus came back to life, He resurrected by the powers of the Holy Spirit who is also God. He was seen by many people after His resurrection. Then Jesus ascended into heaven; when He got there, He sent the Holy Spirit, also God, to the earth. The Holy Spirit is a spirit of truth who can lead all into the realm of Truth. Blessings on you. I cannot pray to reduce water and take the peoples&#8217; water away. That would be too cruel. I will pray that they will never lose their water supply. This is the Christian thing to do. Again, blessings on you and all who take water from the well.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Dream   I'm a Muslim. ?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dream   I'm a Muslim. ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 02:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mashallah!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mashallah!<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Morning Star</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morning Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 02:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah you are right it will never reduce,i totally agree with you.I am a muslim too and i feel very proud that i am a muslim,the islam is the purest religion in the world for me,but for the others is the catholic,and so it goes on,but in the end we all belive in one god and all of us now that its ALLAH,no one is more powerful than him,he is the greatest and no one can compare with him.I really respect catholic people but i can't understand how they can belive that jesus is the son of the god,he is just a prophet but not a god son.In the end this is my opinion i just told what i think and i totally agree with you,its ALLAH's promise!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah you are right it will never reduce,i totally agree with you.I am a muslim too and i feel very proud that i am a muslim,the islam is the purest religion in the world for me,but for the others is the catholic,and so it goes on,but in the end we all belive in one god and all of us now that its ALLAH,no one is more powerful than him,he is the greatest and no one can compare with him.I really respect catholic people but i can&#8217;t understand how they can belive that jesus is the son of the god,he is just a prophet but not a god son.In the end this is my opinion i just told what i think and i totally agree with you,its ALLAH&#8217;s promise!<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Melnazar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melnazar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Source : Underground water source and river. DUH. Nothing divine.
By the way, the Kaaba was built in the 4rth century, prior to that there was not a single mention of it in that area or the neighbouring area despite being on an heavily used merchant road. Ooops, the Quran got that wrong.

@asker : If that was so, then there would be at least ONE text prior to the 4rth century talking about the Kabaa. But no, the first mentions of it is it's construction as a temple to honour the Sumerian god Hubal, also known as Noorma, the moon god.  You really should learn history instead of myths.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Source : Underground water source and river. DUH. Nothing divine.<br />
By the way, the Kaaba was built in the 4rth century, prior to that there was not a single mention of it in that area or the neighbouring area despite being on an heavily used merchant road. Ooops, the Quran got that wrong.</p>
<p>@asker : If that was so, then there would be at least ONE text prior to the 4rth century talking about the Kabaa. But no, the first mentions of it is it&#8217;s construction as a temple to honour the Sumerian god Hubal, also known as Noorma, the moon god.  You really should learn history instead of myths.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: GodIsAlien</title>
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		<dc:creator>GodIsAlien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you on the water. But I think faith is not about believing in something you cant see, but what God will do for you in the end. There is way more than enough proof to know God exists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on the water. But I think faith is not about believing in something you cant see, but what God will do for you in the end. There is way more than enough proof to know God exists.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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